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	<title>Comments on: Sifting through the issues</title>
	<link>http://stopwildlifepoisoning.wildlifedirect.org/2008/05/07/sifting-through-the-issues/</link>
	<description>A campaign against wildlife poisoning</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sauwah</title>
		<link>http://stopwildlifepoisoning.wildlifedirect.org/2008/05/07/sifting-through-the-issues/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>sauwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fmc does have the moral and ethically responsibility to educate its clients and consumers ; but will it spend the money and time? there is no gain for it unless it sees some kind of return like a better public image?  too bad it only makes toxic chemicals instead of organic ones that kill bugs.

the farmers too need much hands on help on their crops and livestock management.  from whom? don't know. but these local folks do need help so that they can continue to support themselves and their families while living with wildlife peacefully some how.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fmc does have the moral and ethically responsibility to educate its clients and consumers ; but will it spend the money and time? there is no gain for it unless it sees some kind of return like a better public image?  too bad it only makes toxic chemicals instead of organic ones that kill bugs.</p>
<p>the farmers too need much hands on help on their crops and livestock management.  from whom? don&#8217;t know. but these local folks do need help so that they can continue to support themselves and their families while living with wildlife peacefully some how.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
		<link>http://stopwildlifepoisoning.wildlifedirect.org/2008/05/07/sifting-through-the-issues/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ngaio for all these points. FMC's carbofuran has been proven lethal to songbirds and was banned in various places for that reason. What kind of company keeps a chemical like that on the market? Clearly, their ethical responsibility is to discontinue it. (not like they don't have an arsenal of dozens of other chemicals to sell.)  Why are they content to continue selling it when there is clear documentation on its lethal nature to birds?
(found an interesting page link from a book documenting the songbirds issue)
http://books.google.ca/books?id=_3zLQvhENVMC&#38;pg=PA492&#38;lpg=PA492&#38;dq=carbofuran+songbirds&#38;source=web&#38;ots=be8GILhUJN&#38;sig=XdrsJEfC6UWNeYDQZixEGCy26lc&#38;hl=en
Maybe if FMC has this attitude, lauching a campaign to make them discontinue the products is one thing we could do too.
Put the thumbscrews on them to get rid of the stuff! (though hopefully not by dumping it in the nearest river)
Perhaps another animal advocy group could launch a campaign in the US where the company is headquartered.
It is all very chilling and who indeed is setting the threshold as you say
Migratory songbirds in north america die because of carbufuran and other chemicals deemed highly toxic by World Health Organization. Those sprayed crops come up to supermarkets in north american from equador and peru. FMC is allowing this to continue so shining a public torch on them might be of benefit.
here is the new york times article on songbirds if you haven't seen it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/opinion/30stutchbury.html?ex=1207540800&#38;en=ec53c93877f5bab7&#38;ei=5070&#38;emc=eta1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ngaio for all these points. FMC&#8217;s carbofuran has been proven lethal to songbirds and was banned in various places for that reason. What kind of company keeps a chemical like that on the market? Clearly, their ethical responsibility is to discontinue it. (not like they don&#8217;t have an arsenal of dozens of other chemicals to sell.)  Why are they content to continue selling it when there is clear documentation on its lethal nature to birds?<br />
(found an interesting page link from a book documenting the songbirds issue)<br />
<a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=_3zLQvhENVMC&amp;pg=PA492&amp;lpg=PA492&amp;dq=carbofuran+songbirds&amp;source=web&amp;ots=be8GILhUJN&amp;sig=XdrsJEfC6UWNeYDQZixEGCy26lc&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.ca/books?id=_3zLQvhENVMC&amp;pg=PA492&amp;lpg=PA492&amp;dq=carbofuran+songbirds&amp;source=web&amp;ots=be8GILhUJN&amp;sig=XdrsJEfC6UWNeYDQZixEGCy26lc&amp;hl=en</a><br />
Maybe if FMC has this attitude, lauching a campaign to make them discontinue the products is one thing we could do too.<br />
Put the thumbscrews on them to get rid of the stuff! (though hopefully not by dumping it in the nearest river)<br />
Perhaps another animal advocy group could launch a campaign in the US where the company is headquartered.<br />
It is all very chilling and who indeed is setting the threshold as you say<br />
Migratory songbirds in north america die because of carbufuran and other chemicals deemed highly toxic by World Health Organization. Those sprayed crops come up to supermarkets in north american from equador and peru. FMC is allowing this to continue so shining a public torch on them might be of benefit.<br />
here is the new york times article on songbirds if you haven&#8217;t seen it.<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/opinion/30stutchbury.html?ex=1207540800&amp;en=ec53c93877f5bab7&amp;ei=5070&amp;emc=eta1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/opinion/30stutchbury.html?ex=1207540800&amp;en=ec53c93877f5bab7&amp;ei=5070&amp;emc=eta1</a></p>
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